到底谁是抽油烟机的销售商?

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去管网email 询问了 FT01的ETL认证,给的答复如下:

To check the current listing on your range hood fan, you could check our product directory on our website. I provided the link below. You can search by the model number. However, if the website does not help you, you could try calling 888-347-5478. That is our product directory helpline. However, they would also need the model number, company name or some sort of information. Hopefully that helped!



http://etlwhidirectory.etlsemko.com/WebClients/ITS/DLP/products.nsf/$$Search?OpenForm

但找不到公司名称,电话询问时, 问标识下方是否有11位字符,也没有找到。
 

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去管网email 询问了 FT01的ETL认证,给的答复如下:

To check the current listing on your range hood fan, you could check our product directory on our website. I provided the link below. You can search by the model number. However, if the website does not help you, you could try calling 888-347-5478. That is our product directory helpline. However, they would also need the model number, company name or some sort of information. Hopefully that helped!



http://etlwhidirectory.etlsemko.com/WebClients/ITS/DLP/products.nsf/$?OpenForm

但找不到公司名称,电话询问时, 问标识下方是否有11位字符,也没有找到。
关于认证的问题,请按照售后投诉处理规程,把你的family code发给我们,我们会把官方认证信息直接发给你。

同时,ETL官方认证信息也贴出来了,FT01在原厂编号也贴出来了。
照着官方的提示,只要把原厂编号输进ETL给你的查询栏就能找到认证信息,应该很清楚了。
 

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你的帖子没有被删,不过好像要等待审核,这个不是咱版主权限内的,也不知道是怎么设置的,第一次看到这情况,估计你是要通过email确认,我已经截图下来了,需要的话可以发给你,你可以问问管理员。

引用你的帖子以后我的回复也变成了等待审核,不知道是不是设置问题
不是你删的最好,向你道歉.

根据我们的深入调查和研究, 现在加拿大市场销售的比较大众的抽油烟机品牌很多型号在中国都是同一个生产厂家所生产制造的,包括Broan,Venmar, Crown,Sanyang, Pacific等。这些品牌都是采取国内生产厂家代工,然后被加拿大经销商以不同品牌的形式在市场上销售。国内生产厂家设计生产出一个型号,在获取相关产品的国际认证以后会被不同的品牌公司采购,作为其海外销售的品牌和型号,有些型号是某些品牌独享,有些型号很多品牌都会有,所以能见到市场上有不少长相雷同但品牌和型号不同的抽油烟机产品。北美著名的小家电品牌Cuisinart,Breville和国内著名的小家电生产加工商“ 美的”就是这种关系,类似的还有iphone和富士康。

我们已经收到很多家庭的回复并确认了安全认证标识, CROWN公司对于该品牌所有的机器都有鉴定和售后保障,因此请放心使用。
同一个生产厂家所生产的同一个型号的机器,在申请认证的时候所用的是厂家的内部编号,再通过不同品牌的经销商所销售的时候,所标识的品牌不同,型号自然就不同。

比如之前网友贴的其他品牌的机器,虽然品牌不同型号不同,但内部结构和认证编号都相同。
希望你上面的回答不是仅从供货商一方得到的解释.这个问题一方面涉及CSA安全认证;另一方面涉及CSA认证产品的标注.以下的网页会提供帮助.

http://www.csa-international.org/product/

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Click http://www.csa-international.org/product/default.asp?load=information_form to submit any questions or concerns about our listings, or contact us at 1.866.797.4272 or (416) 747-2661 and ask to speak with a Technical Service Representative.
 

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闲着无聊,就按照上面haoo发的link查了下团购的和我自己不是团购的油烟机。我自己的根据型号很容易就找到了,但是团购的用crown和FT01都找不到。最后我用团长提供的内部型号找到了两个认证,如下:

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Title: ELECTRIC FANS
Company: ZHONGSHAN RISHUN KITCHEN & BATH CO., LTD. - Zhongshan, Guangdong CHINA
Product Information: Range Hoods, Model Nos. RS- followed by 2001 (PB), 2001 (TC), 63190 (PB), 63190 (TC), 62790 (PB), 62790 (TC), 668A (PB), 668A (TC), 668 (TC), C902, C9081, 610IS, 610IY, 627IS, 627IY, 668IS, 668IY. Model Nos. RS-82890, RS-83190, RS-83890 followed by L, S, S-1, S-2, Y. Model Nos. RS-858 followed by L, S, S-1, S-2, Y. Model Nos. RS-668AS may be followed by -1, S-2. Model Nos. RS-1802 may be followed by F, S, SC, SF, Y, YC, YF. Model Nos. RS-DL followed by 632S5, 638S5, 638T, 668S-3, 668S-3R.

Evaluated to the following: A representative sample of the listed devices have been tested, investigated and found to comply with the requirements of the Standard(s) for Electric Fans (UL-507) and are identified with the ETL Listed Mark.
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Title: FANS & VENTILATORS
Company: ZHONGSHAN RISHUN KITCHEN & BATH CO., LTD. - Zhongshan, Guangdong CHINA
Product Information: Range Hoods, Model Nos. RS- followed by 2001 (PB), 2001 (TC), 63190 (PB), 63190 (TC), 62790 (PB), 62790 (TC), 668A (PB), 668A (TC), 668 (TC), C902, C9081, 610IS, 610IY, 627IS, 627IY, 668IS, 668IY. Model Nos. RS-82890, RS-83190, RS-83890 followed by L, S, S-1, S-2, Y. Model Nos. RS-858 followed by L, S, S-1, S-2, Y. Model Nos. RS-668AS may be followed by -1, S-2. Model Nos. RS-1802 may be followed by F, S, SC, SF, Y, YC, YF. Model Nos. RS-DL followed by 632S5, 638S5, 638T, 668S-3, 668S-3R.

Evaluated to the following: A representative sample of the listed devices have been tested, investigated and found to comply with the requirements of the Standard(s) for Fans and Ventilators (CAN/CSA-C22.2 No. 113) and are identified with the cETL Listed Mark.
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闲着无聊,就按照上面haoo发的link查了下团购的和我自己不是团购的油烟机。我自己的根据型号很容易就找到了,但是团购的用crown和FT01都找不到。最后我用团长提供的内部型号找到了两个认证,如下:
我家的油烟机是朋友帮忙在大统华那家专卖店买的,我也查不到任何数据?:confused: 你家的油烟机是什么牌子和型号的?不知道是不是我的查的方法不对。:rolleyes:
 

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闲着无聊,就按照上面haoo发的link查了下团购的和我自己不是团购的油烟机。我自己的根据型号很容易就找到了,但是团购的用crown和FT01都找不到。最后我用团长提供的内部型号找到了两个认证,如下:

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Title: ELECTRIC FANS
Company: ZHONGSHAN RISHUN KITCHEN & BATH CO., LTD. - Zhongshan, Guangdong CHINA
Product Information: Range Hoods, Model Nos. RS- followed by 2001 (PB), 2001 (TC), 63190 (PB), 63190 (TC), 62790 (PB), 62790 (TC), 668A (PB), 668A (TC), 668 (TC), C902, C9081, 610IS, 610IY, 627IS, 627IY, 668IS, 668IY. Model Nos. RS-82890, RS-83190, RS-83890 followed by L, S, S-1, S-2, Y. Model Nos. RS-858 followed by L, S, S-1, S-2, Y. Model Nos. RS-668AS may be followed by -1, S-2. Model Nos. RS-1802 may be followed by F, S, SC, SF, Y, YC, YF. Model Nos. RS-DL followed by 632S5, 638S5, 638T, 668S-3, 668S-3R.

Evaluated to the following: A representative sample of the listed devices have been tested, investigated and found to comply with the requirements of the Standard(s) for Electric Fans (UL-507) and are identified with the ETL Listed Mark.
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Title: FANS & VENTILATORS
Company: ZHONGSHAN RISHUN KITCHEN & BATH CO., LTD. - Zhongshan, Guangdong CHINA
Product Information: Range Hoods, Model Nos. RS- followed by 2001 (PB), 2001 (TC), 63190 (PB), 63190 (TC), 62790 (PB), 62790 (TC), 668A (PB), 668A (TC), 668 (TC), C902, C9081, 610IS, 610IY, 627IS, 627IY, 668IS, 668IY. Model Nos. RS-82890, RS-83190, RS-83890 followed by L, S, S-1, S-2, Y. Model Nos. RS-858 followed by L, S, S-1, S-2, Y. Model Nos. RS-668AS may be followed by -1, S-2. Model Nos. RS-1802 may be followed by F, S, SC, SF, Y, YC, YF. Model Nos. RS-DL followed by 632S5, 638S5, 638T, 668S-3, 668S-3R.

Evaluated to the following: A representative sample of the listed devices have been tested, investigated and found to comply with the requirements of the Standard(s) for Fans and Ventilators (CAN/CSA-C22.2 No. 113) and are identified with the cETL Listed Mark.
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抽油烟机市场鱼龙混杂.有些挂牌产品在钻监管部门的空子.

作为用户,更为关心的是一旦火灾等事故发生,用所谓"原厂编号"得到的安全认证保险公司认不认可.消费者可与自己的保险公司就此问题进行咨询.
 

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抽油烟机市场鱼龙混杂.有些挂牌产品在钻监管部门的空子.

作为用户,更为关心的是一旦火灾等事故发生,用所谓"原厂编号"得到的安全认证保险公司认不认可.消费者可与自己的保险公司就此问题进行咨询.
我没有参加这次团购,也没有机器来考证这些。我就是随手用那个网站认证我自己的机器和团购的内部编号。至于给出的结果如何理解就是个人问题了,反正我对自己的机器放心就行了。
 

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没认证是假货水货,有了认证还是假货水货,团长可以去跳河了。
小马甲们不停的来刁难,既然那么肯定干嘛不去举报呢,煽风点火很带劲呀,臭不要脸
团长没事自己在家印出来贴机器上发痴?
 

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没认证是假货水货,有了认证还是假货水货,团长可以去跳河了。
小马甲们不停的来刁难,既然那么肯定干嘛不去举报呢,煽风点火很带劲呀,臭不要脸
团长没事自己在家印出来贴机器上发痴?
关于认证的问题,跟你们团长没有太大的关系.他只是一个销售员.这一点要说清楚.
 

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关于认证的问题,跟你们团长没有关系.他只是一个销售员.这一点要说清楚.
小傻不都说了吗,几年前就搞过这牌子的团购了,而且比这几年加起来的都多,都是假的?有几家着火了?你这id注册了不就是要想危言耸听,搞得大家人人自危嘛
 

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有些人呐就是别有用心,不停的抹黑搅和,大家是傻子不会看吗
又暗示是假货水货,又说能找到同样牌子更便宜的,不知道团长让你分享信息有没有下文了,少做点缺德事多做点贡献吧。
 

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有些人呐就是别有用心,不停的抹黑搅和,大家是傻子不会看吗
又暗示是假货水货,又说能找到同样牌子更便宜的,不知道团长让你分享信息有没有下文了,少做点缺德事多做点贡献吧。
你说话别阴阳怪气的,你不就是说我嘛。分不分享是我的自由,你在这骂街难道对论坛作了好的贡献?看你的ID是女性,我还是尊重一下你,建议你说话1.别指桑骂槐,2.语气温和些,对大家都好。
 

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小傻不都说了吗,几年前就搞过这牌子的团购了,而且比这几年加起来的都多,都是假的?有几家着火了?你这id注册了不就是要想危言耸听,搞得大家人人自危嘛
以前搞过团购着没着过火不清楚.这里是就事论事,危言耸听言过其实了.

就以下贴子中提出的疑问请教了单位中专门与监管部门打交道的同事,回答就是fishy.建议直接联系CSA.

团座本着负责的态度对上次油烟机买家做了一次关于CSA认证调查。 我收到团座调查的email后查了我的机器(因为这事还没敢安装)。
结果机器上有CSA认证。旁边的有认证号 228791。上CSA网站上用这个认证号查到了一下结果:

http://directories.csa-international.org/xml_transform.asp?xml=certxml\228791-3812-01.xml&xsl=xsl/certrec.xsl

Chinabest Home Appliance Co., Ltd. 3812-01 228791
No. 2 Fuqing Yi Road, FANS AND BLOWERS-
Henglan, Zhongshan
Guangdong

我在CSA网站上查了,认证号228791适用的型号是:
Range Hoods with two exhaust openings, permanently connected, household use, rated 120 V, 60 Hz, 2 A, with 40 W max lamp, Models CXW-200-04A, CXW-200-04A1, CXW-200-04B, CXW-200-04B1 (or NTM30SS, or NTM30WH) and CXW-200-05B1.
Range Hood with one exhaust opening, household used, cord connected, rated 120 V, 60 Hz, 1 A, Model WA0175E2D2 or DWRH301.

这些适用的型号不包括我的机器型号。请问有谁知道这正常吗?我问了一位本地工厂的工程师(生产电热水壶),他说不是很肯定,说可以问CSA。
去管网email 询问了 FT01的ETL认证,给的答复如下:

To check the current listing on your range hood fan, you could check our product directory on our website. I provided the link below. You can search by the model number. However, if the website does not help you, you could try calling 888-347-5478. That is our product directory helpline. However, they would also need the model number, company name or some sort of information. Hopefully that helped!



http://etlwhidirectory.etlsemko.com/WebClients/ITS/DLP/products.nsf/$?OpenForm

但找不到公司名称,电话询问时, 问标识下方是否有11位字符,也没有找到。
 

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你说话别阴阳怪气的,你不就是说我嘛。分不分享是我的自由,你在这骂街难道对论坛作了好的贡献?看你的ID是女性,我还是尊重一下你,建议你说话1.别指桑骂槐,2.语气温和些,对大家都好。
你还知道阴阳怪气呢,你自己主动说能有买到更便宜的,但又不愿意跟大家分享,你那些所谓的更便宜的价格是想忽悠大家玩呢,还是想扇团长的脸?
整天酸了吧唧的说你家有认证,团购的没有,官方网上的人家都贴出来了,你既然怀疑又不去举报,这么好的赚钱也不要了,而只在这儿酸贫除了恶心人估计你也没其他能耐了。
我也给你两个建议1.不要阴阳怪气,有话就直说 2.君子爱财取之有道
不用谢:tx:
 
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