Liu Yong, please answer the phone!!

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  • 要过月饼节了,谁跟糊涂人至气;)
    最腻味动不动就威胁人玩的,咱渥村这小地方,里里外外谁不跟谁都能打个招呼啊:p
    猫胖胖,中秋节快乐啊!咱也祝明白人都快乐,祝刘师傅生意越来越火。
     

    Tarus

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    以下只代表我个人看法。

    装修房子哪里有100%满意阿,不同的的有不同的满意程度,也许对于我来说满意,可是对于你来说不满意。


    不过再怎么样,该付的钱就应该付,如果你对某一块地板作的不满意,可以要求LIUYONG把它修好。如果太费劲的话,就让LIUYONG给减去一些费用,我相信LIUYONG也是愿意的。

    Again, we never told Liu that we won't pay him, but he needs to settle the issue with us on the demaged areas. We did asked Liu to replace the demaged ones, but unfortunately he didn't have the skill. To replace one board, he told us that he need to remove at least 50 boards that were surrounding the demaged one. in our case, there were more than a dozen spot that were demaged. we asked Liu that if he doesn't have the skill, he was more than welcome to have someone else to fix them, but he never did.

    再说,你是要卖房,也不是自己住。有必要这么较真吗?你的这种不让人修,又不付钱的态度,让我觉得就是存心地想要赖帐。这点LZ应该向CFC著名人物“永歌”学习(详情请翻看“永歌”同志以前的帖子)

    而且我是个非常护犊子的人, 要是我看到谁要是威胁我的孩子,对不起,不管是上法院还是私了,我都不会放过你,咱也没啥钱不过耗死你也足够了。(所以在所有有孩子的父母前,千万别用孩子来威胁)。

    We have young children as well. It was just a friendly reminder that Liu Yong should answer our phone calls (called him 5 times and he didn't answer them), we also emailed him, again no reply to settle the case. Since he asked a lawyer to file a lien on our property, we need his lawyer's information. That was the reason that we post this thread here, and asking him to get in touch with us and don't force us to use legal action because once the case is in court, it's not only time consuming, also your energy as well. We didn't want to see that happening as both Liu Yong and I have young children and the kids are in the stage that they need the parents's attention the most.

    中国社区在这里是很小的,大家认识的人都不少。何必呢? LIUYONG也替我们干过活,人真的很不错。北方人爽气。要是碰上我们南方人作也作死你。劝你一句,大事化小,小事化无。到最后,你也许什么也没得到。
    He should have the knowledge when dealing with different species of the wood.
     

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    行了,您也别费劲换着马甲来:rolleyes:

    甭管刘师傅是不是朋友,咱就事论事好不好?!

    您也别威胁猫妈,猫妈不怕您这个!还carefully呢,咱俩谁需要carefully啊:eek:


    All I asked is that you need to read carefully and get the meaning before posting your comment
     

    Lovesky1234

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    Sky walker 还是 Tarus, 明眼人都看得出来,你拖欠钱在先,还威胁人家有孩子(除非你英文写得太差),別再说了,小心大家群起而攻之。

    看看人家Liu Yong写得清楚"你消失了2个月终于出现了, 你欠钱并消失,律师说像你这样的人有不少,打算卖了房一跑了之,你从一开始就没打算给钱,所有涉及到价格的email你都不回复。在你号称的木地板complain发生之前就拖着不给刷漆的钱。
    我第一次去你家,你就把有名的很nice的BMO华人房贷经纪骂一顿,说她不愿贷给你钱。您应该不是第一次干欠钱不给这事儿了,所以你的credit很低。是吧?"

    不要再无理搅三分啦,让我们知道你是谁,多丢人呀!
     

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    Sky walker 还是 Tarus, 明眼人都看得出来,你拖欠钱在先,还威胁人家有孩子(除非你英文写得太差),別再说了,小心大家群起而攻之。

    看看人家Liu Yong写得清楚"你消失了2个月终于出现了, 你欠钱并消失,律师说像你这样的人有不少,打算卖了房一跑了之,你从一开始就没打算给钱,所有涉及到价格的email你都不回复。在你号称的木地板complain发生之前就拖着不给刷漆的钱。

    我第一次去你家,你就把有名的很nice的BMO华人房贷经纪骂一顿,说她不愿贷给你钱。您应该不是第一次干欠钱不给这事儿了,所以你的credit很低。是吧?"

    不要再无理搅三分啦,让我们知道你是谁,多丢人呀!
    We didn't hide from him, in fact, we met Liu Yong once at a local store. After he finished his painting work, I did asked him if he is in need of money so I can drop the painting labor and cost off on the weekend, but he didn't give me his address. the following week, he started his floor installation. if he was responsible for his work, none of the conflict would happen. As far as our credit is concerned, you'll be disappointed to hear that there are 3 banks (BMO, Scotiabank and CIBC) trying to get our business and offering a very attractive rate
     

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    We didn't hide from him, in fact, we met Liu Yong once at a local store. After he finished his painting work, I did asked him if he is in need of money so I can drop the painting labor and cost off on the weekend, but he didn't give me his address. the following week, he started his floor installation. if he was responsible for his work, none of the conflict would happen. As far as our credit is concerned, you'll be disappointed to hear that there are 3 banks (BMO, Scotiabank and CIBC) trying to get our business and offering a very attractive rate
    哈哈,什么叫"After he finished his painting work, I did asked him if he is in need of money", 给你刷完墙,还问人家需不需要钱?
    我还不明白,为什么交钱不当面给人家,还一定要人家的地址 (如果是因为报税,是事先和刘师傅商量好的带税的价格吗?)。
    大家都知道,现在的银行饥渴的不行,谁来都欢迎⋯这个没什么新鲜的吧。
     

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    哈哈,什么叫"After he finished his painting work, I did asked him if he is in need of money", 给你刷完墙,还问人家需不需要钱?

    我还不明白,为什么交钱不当面给人家,还一定要人家的地址 (如果是因为报税,是事先和刘师傅商量好的带税的价格吗?)。



    The home renovation was half way done, I wasn't sure if Liu wanted all the payment at the end or half way through. It was in late Friday afternoon when the painting on the house was finished. Liu insisted to have cash (labor, metaril and HST), but I didn't have that much cash on me and Liu was in a hurry to leave, so I asked If I can drop the payment off at his home on the weekend.



    大家都知道,现在的银行饥渴的不行,谁来都欢迎⋯这个没什么新鲜的吧。
    Banks welcome all kinds of the business, but not with a compiting rate if you don't have a very good credit
     

    Lovesky1234

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    个人看法:

    "所有涉及到价格的Email你都不回复⋯"这不是赖帳是什么?
    "第一次去你家,就骂一通房贷经纪⋯"这品够高吗?

    据我所知,老外做装修工作的又贵,质量又不如中国人做得细,还要客户先付定金,有的是先付60%-80%。
    中国人公司就好说话些,只需要分期付工钱,因为不可能工人帮你垫付太多材料费。在这点上,刘师傅真的是很好说话了。在装地板前,不怪刘师傅没提醒过你吧,你说小商店不好退,对不对。他也不想成心装坏地板,砸自己生意。装的质量问题当初他一定也想给你解决好吧。我想,你不逼人太甚,他是不会无原无故地找律师的,你说呢。中国人在这小地方,低头不见抬头见的,省省吧。
     

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    个人看法:

    "所有涉及到价格的Email你都不回复⋯"这不是赖帳是什么?

    "第一次去你家,就骂一通房贷经纪⋯"这品够高吗?

    It was all oral commitment, otherwise the work wouldn't be continued. Did you hear that we said bad things about the Mortgate agent? or was Liu exaggerated the facts

    据我所知,老外做装修工作的又贵,质量又不如中国人做得细,还要客户先付定金,有的是先付60%-80%。

    中国人公司就好说话些,只需要分期付工钱,因为不可能工人帮你垫付太多材料费。在这点上,刘师傅真的是很好说话了。在装地板前,不怪刘师傅没提醒过你吧,你说小商店不好退,对不对。他也不想成心装坏地板,砸自己生意。装的质量问题他一定也想给你解决好。我想,你不逼人太甚,他是不会无原无故地找律师的,你说呢。中国人在这小地方,抬头不见低头见的,省省吧。
    the hardwood is called Kempas and the hardness for this wood is almost double when comparing to Maple wood. The quality of the wood is in-line with high-graded hardwood floor. When dealing with harder wood, the installation is slightly different from tranditional install. We relied on Liu's knowledge and experience, but Unfortunately neither us nor Liu has that kind of knowledge and techiniques.

    we're the victim because of Liu's lack of knowledge and lack of experience when handling with different species wood. Like I said in my previous post, if it were only few spots that were demaged by Liu's installation, we would let go. we were not seeking for 100% perfection, but 80% should be expected. His work and money are not easy, so is ours
     

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    我担心你这"高级"的木地板找谁装都够呛⋯该Liuyong倒霉碰上你。
     

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    我担心你这"高级"的木地板找谁装都够呛⋯该Liuyong倒霉碰上你。
    Do your self a favor and don't sound so innocent and naive, Hardwoods like cherry or jotoba, the installation is handled differently. Liu has been in the field for many years, he should has that knowledge
     

    Lovesky1234

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    Ya, he should know everything including your morals. It seems you are innocent, it also seems you know everything, why you didn't do by yourself!
    Anyways, thanks for your replies. I feel so bored about your saying.
     

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    这种垃圾都存在的,当大爷雇别人,要及时付费,想不花钱少花钱,自己要弯腰,这点道理都不懂的。

    刘师傅也有错,为什么几次容许客户欠钱的,容许客户欠钱不是一个good way to show how nice you are or how good your job is.

    以前还真不知道刘勇,以后有活就请他了。
     

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    这位‘旁观者’你大概也该知道LZ买的马来西亚地板质量很差,刘勇事先就提醒过难以保证高质量吧?尤其所有的缝隙积压到最后。他建议过LZ退货,但LZ说是在一家小店买的,退货不容易,会损伤些手续费,坚持用这批地板。

    我感觉刘勇为我们安装的地板,比Builder的质量好,他用钉子固定每一块木板,他第一天带来的替补小工按多伦多的标准Skip了几块,刘勇发现后都重新补上,说这样速度是快,但无法长期保证质量,他第二天就没有再带小工,自己独立完成了地板。

    我感觉新房的地板有些地方有响声,咨询负责保修的工头后,说如果要修只能切割下来,会破坏整体的咬合,以后效果更难以保证,我就没有填在报修项目中。
    请问多伦多什么叫多伦多的标准?做你家的时候有几个问题:第一,没下蜡纸。第二,打枪时用力太猛,容易打爆地板。第三,墙与木板缝隙太小,容易变形有响声。第四,做得快不代表做得不好,做得多了自然就快了。请不要在这里不懂瞎说。
     

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    昨天跟LIUYONG通了电话说起这事,我对LIUYONG说:你们CONTRACTOR应该列一个“黑名单”,对别的提供各种服务的人员或公司提个醒,避免此类事情的再度发生。LIUYONG说:这事过了就算了,我不会透露客户的信息。



    LZ 你看看,这就是差距阿!



    再问LZ一个问题,请如实回答。如果你不知道mechanic lien的存在,你会发帖吗?你会付钱吗?
     
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