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FBI surveillance video shows Rittenhouse's actions before he shot 3 people​

New FBI infrared aerial surveillance video played in court Wednesday appears to show Kyle Rittenhouse moving toward a parking lot where Joseph Rosenbaum was standing, revealing never-before-seen moments before an interaction that led to the fatal shooting of Rosenbaum. The video is the first piece of evidence showing what took place before previously known video of Rosenbaum chasing Rittenhouse moments before he was shot.

The video was shot from high above, and it's difficult to clearly distinguish the identities of the two men running. During his testimony, Det. Martin Howard with the Kenosha Police Department confirmed the identities of the two men in the final few seconds before the shooting.

Prosecutors had previously said the infrared surveillance video could show that, at least at some point during the night of the fatal shootings, it was Rittenhouse who was following Rosenbaum. CNN's Adrienne Broaddus reports.

 
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此案正在选陪审员,现有录像显示这位17岁的杀手并非处于防守反击地位,而是追击射杀受害者。

一切后续发展,静等司法程序的审判。
您的理解好像不太准确

"The first batch of videos showed the first shooting in which Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse and threw a bag at him. A gunshot then went off, and Rittenhouse then shot Rosenbaum four times. Prosecutors showed graphic video of Rosenbaum lying on the ground with a head wound as people tried to provide medical aid."
 

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"The first batch of videos showed the first shooting in which Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse and threw a bag at him. A gunshot then went off, and Rittenhouse then shot Rosenbaum four times. Prosecutors showed graphic video of Rosenbaum lying on the ground with a head wound as people tried to provide medical aid."
Prosecutors had previously said the infrared surveillance video could show that, at least at some point during the night of the fatal shootings, it was Rittenhouse who was following Rosenbaum. CNN's Adrienne Broaddus reports.

我的理解录像虽然没有拍到整个过程,至少那晚的某些时刻,是这位17岁的杀手在追受害者。
 

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Prosecutors had previously said the infrared surveillance video could show that, at least at some point during the night of the fatal shootings, it was Rittenhouse who was following Rosenbaum. CNN's Adrienne Broaddus reports.

我的理解录像虽然没有拍到整个过程,至少那晚的某些时刻,是这位17岁的杀手在追受害者。
那是检查官的说法,但从CNN报道看庭上展示的视频似乎并不支持。从描述没有哪里可以看到被告在追死者,负责调查的警探也不止一次确认辩方律师的说法。
 
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那是检查官的说法,但从CNN报道看庭上展示的视频似乎并不支持。从描述没有哪里可以看到被告在追死者,负责调查的警探也不止一次确认辩方律师的说法。
Rittenhouse slows down in the video, and there appears to be some kind of exchange, but there is no audio of the moment.

Other videos from witnesses on the ground show that Rittenhouse could be heard yelling "friendly, friendly, friendly" at this point.

"And it does not dissuade Mr. Rosenbaum, correct?" Richards said.

"Correct," Howard responded.
Rittenhouse continued to move in the same direction he was moving previously, and Rosenbaum starts to chase Rittenhouse. Videos taken of the scene from other witnesses show Rosenbaum threw a plastic bag at Rittenhouse but he was otherwise unarmed.

These other videos also show that a different person fired a gunshot in the air seconds before Rittenhouse fatally shot Rosenbaum.

Rittenhouse fired an AR-15-style weapon eight times in all during the unrest: four shots at Rosenbaum, who was unarmed; two shots at an unarmed unknown individual who kicked Rittenhouse; one fatal shot at Anthony Huber, who hit Rittenhouse with a skateboard; and one shot at Gaige Grosskreutz, who was holding a gun, according to prosecutors.

Rosenbaum and Huber, 26, were killed, and Grosskreutz, now 27, was wounded.

高空红外录像显示,Kyle从其他地方快速来到这个停车场,与第一名死者Rosebaum 有近距离接触,其他视频显示,死者向Kyle 扔了一个塑料袋,除此之外他没有任何武器,高空视频显示,此后Kyle 曾持枪追击并射杀死者。

双方律师都同意,在17岁的Kyle 开枪之前,有未知的第三者先开了一枪。

Kyle总共开了8枪,4枪射死没有武器的Rosenbaum,两枪射向没有武器的未知者,一枪射死用skateboard攻击他的Huber,最后一枪射伤的是s持枪的Grosskreutz.
 

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死者向Kyle 扔了一个塑料袋,除此之外他没有任何武器,高空视频显示,此后Kyle 曾持枪追击并射杀死者。
加红的这句在原文里怎么说的?
 

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加红的这句在原文里怎么说的?
你要看谁的原文,chased down 是检察官的原话。这是我看录像得出的结论可以吗?给你看了视频,和文字,你说是控方律师说的也不算数。

现在的录像显示和这楼第一帖辩方律师描述的正当防卫区别很大吧?他从其他地方跑过来的,是过来自卫的吗?

 

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Jo Allan Dimitrius 26年前,1995年帮助O J Simpson 案子选择陪审员的人,这次也参加Kyle案辩护团队选择陪审员,看看这位白右能否有黑人辛普森式的超常审判结果。

她还参加过几个著名的案子,有自己的公司,出版著作:Reading People.

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图中后排女性, Jo Allan Dimitrius 26年前作为辛普森辩护团队的成员,

Consultant who helped with O.J. Simpson jury is working with Rittenhouse lawyers​

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Veteran jury expert and trial consultant Dr. Jo-Ellan Dimitrius has been advising the accused killer’s attorneys in court; she was reportedly hired months ago.
Dr. Jo-Ellan Dimitrius, a veteran jury expert and trial consultant, has been working closely with the attorneys representing accused killer Kyle Rittenhouse.

Dimitrius, 67, became well known in 1995 for developing a jury profile of the 12 people who ultimately acquitted O.J. Simpson. She also has been involved in several high-profile cases, including those of Rodney King, Scott Peterson, Jayson Williams and Kobe Bryant.

According to CNN, Dimitrius was retained by Rittenhouse’s attorneys to help them determine the “right” juror profile in his case,

Defense jury expert Jo-Ellan Dimitrius (left) talks with Wendy Rittenhouse (right), the mother of Kyle Rittenhouse, before closing arguments during the 18-year-old’s trial at the Kenosha County Courthouse on Monday in Kenosha, Wisconsin. (Photo: Mark Hertzberg-Pool/Getty Images)

Defense jury expert Jo-Ellan Dimitrius (left) talks with Wendy Rittenhouse (right), the mother of Kyle Rittenhouse, before closing arguments during the 18-year-old’s trial at the Kenosha County Courthouse on Monday in Kenosha, Wisconsin. (Photo: Mark Hertzberg-Pool/Getty Images)

Dimitrius also helped select juries in widely watched civil trials, including one environmental lawsuit in which the City of New York was awarded more than $100 million in a case against petroleum giant Exxon.

Images taken in the Kenosha County Courthouse courtroom Monday captured Dimitrius comforting an emotional Wendy Rittenhouse, the 18-year-old defendant’s mother, during trial testimony.


A jury profile is a list of characteristics that trial lawyers deem to be favorable or unfavorable to their case, according to Lisa A. Blue, a forensic pathologist in Texas. This could include determining the type of person who would be sympathetic or hostile to the defendant or the image they present.

A California native, Dimitrius has been studying the behaviors of juries since graduate school. According to her company bio, her doctoral dissertation was titled “The Representative Jury: Fact or Fallacy.” With a focus on psychology, she has consulted in over 1,000 trials, evaluated more than 10,000 jurors, authored two books and co-authored a third, titled Jury Selection in Civil and Criminal Cases. American Lawyer magazine has reportedly nicknamed her “The Seer.”

Dimitrius may have had some influence in selecting the 20 people initially chosen for the Rittenhouse jury, which includes 11 women, nine men and only one person of color. Two jurors were dismissed. One was a middle-aged man who was dismissed for telling an inappropriate joke about Jacob Blake, whose shooting by Kenosha police was the cause for the protests at which Rittenhouse shot three people, two of them fatally. A pregnant woman was dismissed after she complained of physical discomfort.

Randy Peukert, the vice president of Dimitrius & Associates, told CNN that his associate, Dimitrius, is the best “probably on the planet” at developing jury profiles. “There’s always research done,” he said. “It really gives them [the defense] the added benefit and confidence … what they are presenting will resonate with a jury.”

According to Peukert, Dimitrius was hired four to six months ago.

The final 12 jurors were selected Tuesday by a lottery system, during which Kyle Rittenhouse himself pulled six slips of paper from a large drum; the jurors indicated on each were dismissed, and the 12 who remained went into deliberations.

The practice is common in Wisconsin. However, John P. Gross, the director of the University of Wisconsin-Madison’s Public Defender Project, told NBC News he has only seen judges do the picking. “It’s completely random, and whoever is picking is picking,” Gross said. “It was an interesting piece of theater having the judge inviting the defendant to make the draw.”

Another law professor from the University of Wisconsin opined that the optics of Rittenhouse picking from the drum were bad. “I know it’s a random selection, but I have some concerns about it,” Ion Meyn said. “To me, from the optics side, it doesn’t make sense. I don’t think it was a good idea.”

The eyebrow-raising act followed a series of rulings made by Judge Bruce Schroeder that have caused many people to believe he is openly sympathetic to Rittenhouse. Just before the case went to the jury, Schroeder dropped a charge against the defendant as a minor in possession of a firearm. Rittenhouse’s defense dug up the legislation which reads that a minor in possession of a gun is only illegal if that weapon is short-barreled. An AR-style rifle is not.

The jury in the trial of the State of Wisconsin vs Kyle Rittenhouse began deliberations Tuesday at 9 a.m. CT. As of press time, the only thing they have requested are extra copies of the jury instructions.

Rittenhouse is charged with five felonies: first-degree intentional homicide, first-degree reckless homicide, attempted first-degree intentional homicide and two counts of first-degree recklessly endangering safety. Jurors have been instructed that they can consider lesser charges on two of the counts. If convicted of the most serious charge, Rittenhouse will be sentenced to mandatory life in prison.

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看来专家的陪审员选择很成功。
 
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